Ok David, I'm back for one more point to be made.
The WS employees that post here, are no doubt low level so they really have no ability to affect real change in the WS model.
If that were possible the WS's would have listened to the individual members who were unhappy, and actually affecting change by leaving their sorry WS ar**es!
Until someone of high level and with the ability and desire to really change things shows up here, I will not be having any conversation with them.
Another concern I have is for the florist who are stilll WS members, but who want to come to this site and express to other FLORIST their fears, concerns, and stories of mistreatment and get advise on what to do. Having WS employees on the site stiffles the florist ability and desire to share with other florist. Thereby allowing the WS's to operate in the shadows and with preknowledge of a shops plans. I dumped them all, I'm very happy that I did, and I'm keeping more of my money.
This is clearly "the fox in the hen house", difference is the "fox" has the ability to put the death bite on more "hens" here. (computer age) Do you not think they take the names of the shops who complain here, and put them at the end of the list for help, and orders, etc. We all know that favored shops get the orders.
By the way, I burned the bridge and will never be fooled into rebuilding it. I don't need a WS. We all did well without them before, and with the internet we really have no need for them. That is unless you just enjoy buying their junk and storing it, waiting for that order they are going to "drive into your shop". That line alone in their sales speel should be actionable.
My opinion.