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I didn't get solicited from India, like everyone else, but I did hear from Kyle. This was my e-mail to him yesterday, and his polite response. He said he contacted us because of our "About Flowers" link to the SAF site.

----- Original Message -----
From: "info" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: Question about myrosegardenflorist.com


Kyle,
I'm a little confused as to why you would think that we, a retail
florist, would offer our customers a link to your site, which also
sells flowers. Correct me if I an wrong, but that seems to be not
very good business sense, unless I am mis-understanding your site.
Tracy
myrosegardenflorist.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "info" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:03 PM
Subject: RE: Question about myTracy-

I really appreciate your truthfull response

Personally I feel this linking thing is a double edged sword.
1) the reciprocal link might bring you traffic
2) the reciprocal link might bring me traffic
Most importantly - the reciprocal link will help both sites in establishment
of a higher PR on Google.

However as you know, people will buy flowers where ever they want to buy
flowers so limiting your exposure online seems like an even worse thing to
do. I.E. Isolationism online will get you nowhere unless the site is very
much established.

food for thought-
Let me know if you are still interested.

Thank You-
Kyle
www.flower-delivery-flowers.com
 
Ted -

That's just a GrowerFlowers.com affiliate mirror. I understand there are more than 8000 of them out there.

They offer drop-ship roses and cut flowers grown in the US and Canada and also have an affiliation with FTD. Orders are transmitted over merc from GF Flowers, Lansing MI.

Some of the affiliates used to place high in search with doorway pages and a lot of deceptive text but most have disappeared from Google.

Searching FC you'll find references to their 'stores' being sold on eBay and their allignment with at least one of the worst black hat OGs on the web. (He finally got whacked by Google last year but seems to be making a come-back recently.)

Yahoo's Directory - unbelievably - has the flower-delivery-flowers.com site listed as a Florist Directory.

There's way worse out there than these guys.... unfortunately.
 
I got Kyle's email as well....checked the site, and had the same question Tracy had as well.

Sent "Kyle" a "Why the hell would I?" email with a twist.... something like...

Kyle, thanks for the offer, but I don't think a link to your site would benifit my already high rankings on Google, but I'd agree that my high ranking may help you... no thanks...

I would like to thank you however for bringing your site to my attention, I will investigate your site further (deeply) and consider including it on another of my endevours www.floristdetective.com which I am sure will help your Google ranking, if you like, you may wish to search Google for terms like "Deceptive Florist" or similar

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You want a total crack up? Guess who wrote the following article:



Finding A Local Florist - Sorting Out the Weeds of Deceptive Flower Shop Phone Listings
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You want to send flowers to Aunt Sally in Newark or your sister Susan in San Antonio. You decide to look up a local florist there, hoping to get more personal service or even save a few bucks by avoiding the "middleman." Normally, a simple call to directory information or an online search would be all it takes, but in the case of florists, the results could be deceiving.

Many of the online resources are overcrowded with national marketers and wire services rather than the real local florists you're seeking. Some companies have built hundreds or even thousands of web pages referencing various cities across the country just to show up in so-called "local" searches across the country. Others are simply paying to be on top. This makes life difficult, as it is very hard to tell the difference between a genuine family flower shop and a national fictitious "florist" with local phone numbers which are actually forwarded out of state.

While these deceptive phone listings have officially been banned in many states as intentionally misleading, the laws are all too often not enforced. As a result, fictitious florist phone listings have become commonplace, especially with the growth of online yellow pages. Flowers With Gifted Elegance of Randolph, NJ and All American Flowers of Mount Laurel, NJ are two of several telemarketing companies employing this tactic to make money while providing a disservice to unsuspecting consumers. By purchasing local phone listings under many different names, they hope to lead customers into using their services.

The strategy first surfaced in the mid-nineties. States such as Virginia and Delaware recognized the threat and took action. Other states have followed, but the practice continues today relatively unhindered. Companies in New Jersey, Wisconsin, and the state of Washington purchase phone numbers all over the country, and place those numbers in local white and yellow pages. The listings usually have the name 'Flowers Of (Town or City)' or 'Flowers in (Town/City)', with a local area code and phone number but either no address or a bogus address. Consumer groups agree it's misleading at best and usually a ploy to con people into ordering. In the end, customers may face unnecessary extra charges, poor quality, or both. Here's how it works and what you can do to avoid it.

The Phone Listing Scam

Take a quick trip over to whitepages.com. Do a search for business type "florist springfield," and don't even both entering any city or state. You'll see that about five of the first listings are for "Florist in Springfield" or "Florist of Springfield" in Massachusetts, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Missouri. They all display local phone numbers, but none of them list an address, a common indication of a deceptive listing. To find out more, we called each of the numbers. Four were answered by a recording referring to "Our Flowers with Gifted Elegance." The fifth was answered by a similar operation which refused to provide a physical address and claimed it didn't allow 'walk-in' customers. In short, all five were bogus. The problem isn't limited to Springfield. One florist we interviewed knew of at least seventeen misleading florist listings in its local yellow pages.

According to customers, the real disservice isn't the false listing it's the poor service. These companies often charge between $8.99 and $14.99 for taking each order and redirecting it to a real local florist. The service fee is on top of the flowers and local delivery, or worse yet is deducted from them without the customer's knowledge. The Better Business Bureau report on Flowers with Gifted Elegance, at bbb.org, notes an unsatisfactory record due to unanswered complaints. A search at RipOffReport.com reveals the number of complaints, including reports by people who's flowers were never delivered.

Avoid Being a Victim

There may be no easy way to recover from being a victim of this kind of advertising deception, but avoiding it is fairly easy.

- Trust your hometown florist. Most are seasoned professionals who can deliver your gift almost anywhere, know the better flower shops in other areas, stand behind their service, and guarantee your satisfaction. In the unlikely event any problem does arise, you'll be glad you're working with a reputable local business that wants your continued patronage.

- If you shop online, choose a nationwide florist that proudly displays a toll-free phone number, contact address, customer satisfaction policy, and industry credentials. Check for a secure order form with "https" in the address, and consider placing your first order by phone to ensure customer service people are easy to reach.

- Get advice from friends, neighbors, or business associates. They're often the best source for choosing the right florist.

- If you do search for local florists online or in phone books, be sure to avoid those with generic names that include the town or that can't give you the address and directions to their local store.

The vast majority of florists are hard-working, family-owned businesses dedicated to serving you. So, you can send flowers with confidence when you turn to the local florists you know and nationwide florists you trust. Most can deliver your bouquet around the corner or across the country, within 24 hours or less. No wonder, flower delivery is still one of the most reliable and popular ways to show you care. Still, like any industry, the flower business has its share of 'bad apples.' So, think twice before you play Russian Roulette with the phone book. Count on your local hometown florist and the established nationwide florists online.

Courtesy of Flowers Delivery Florists, an online guide for fresh flowers, florists online, and floral information resrouces.
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