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Um no... Insightful.
Like Carol, in the great scheme of things it doesn't matter all that much. Although, I must admit to having a warm fuzzy moment when I see that someone has gifted me with a green dot because they appreciated what I said. Sort of like Kindergarten I guess... looking for a loooooong line of stars behind my name.
Ryan, I love you to the end of time, but, oh my gawd, I am soooo not into that formula you so graciously posted... it is gibberish to the nth degree for me.
V
Joe Mioux
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mark, I am glad you chimed in.
Why did the system have to be reset?
Whenever I look at my cp, i see some points, mine are around 19,6xx something. Those numbers never get changed when Ryan resets the public rep power numbers.
Why not just use those numbers instead of the numbers above the green dots.
Some people say this rep business is nonsense.
to that I say you are foolish.
I value my reputation here and appreciate all the favorable rep points I have earned. I also value all of you and your contributitions.
We are all here to learn and grow and do better.
Most of my rep points came from people appreciating my expertise or appreciating and thanking me for saying something that needed to be said.
To a much lesser extent, I have recieved some frivolous rep points.
I value these rep points because most of them were said with sincere gratitude from my fellow fcr's.
Mark, prior to this latest reset of rep power points, you had something like 180 rep points and I had 203.
Now you have 78 and I have 74.
Why do you deserve to leap frog over me?
Ryan? care to answer.
Joe
Let me help you here ..
Uummm V, a joke ...
like cheque, colour, favour ... etceterour, etceterour, etceterour ...
Uummm V, a joke ...
like cheque, colour, favour ... etceterour, etceterour, etceterour ...
Joe as always you make some valid points. I know it's not what this place it's all about, but it's nice to you're appreciated.
As a message board community grows from a small town to a big city, there will be more and more spammers, flamers, etc..., the rep system really does help keep things in check.
Since I'm pretty much a newbie I wasn't as affected by the adjustment as you were. But now that you point it out, it really doesn't make sense that you were quite higher than some members and now you are lower.
Not sure how that conclusion was reached... In order of rep level, Joe outranks most everybody here.
We all were 'adjusted'. :> Hey, I got demoted from 'Legend' to a 'whole other level' (I'm guessing Mezzanine. :> )
I based it on what Joe said:
"Mark, prior to this latest reset of rep power points, you had something like 180 rep points and I had 203.
Now you have 78 and I have 74.
Why do you deserve to leap frog over me?"
Seems like he had quite a bit more rep power prior to the adjustment, now he has less? :dunno:
Well I went from the upper balcony to the lobby. :tongue:
Um.... I know. I forgot to put the emoticon behind it.
I also forget that when writing, inflections in tone aren't obvious. V
Joe Mioux
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And this is another issue that I don't understand.....
I rank right behind you and bloomz, based on my internal reputation points, not on Rep Power Points.
What is the difference between the Reputation Points I see in my control panel and the Rep Power Points that are on public display?
Why have both? why are both needed?
Are the Rep Power Points used to weight someone's voting power for admission or provide that person with more reputation-power-giving authority? In other words, does the fact that I have more Rep Power Points provide me with the ability to give more than one Rep Power Point?
Joe
P.S. I ask these questions because I am curious and I want to know what happened and why. I assume others have the same questions.
Joe -
I don't have the answer about the difference, but let me add some food for thought....
The early years of this board, IIRC, members rarely, rarely used rep dots. For many florists, FC is their first (and perhaps only) experience in a forum. More than a few struggled just to register and figure out how to post. The rep concept? fuggedaboutit!
The increased use of rep dots of late doesn't take into account some of the long-timers with high posts counts who have contributed immensely to the success of this board.
Some of them keep everything moving along socially - with kind words to unanswered posts, active engagement in the intro threads (which takes a lot of time and helps build our community) and other contributions that don't generally generate approving rep points.
Others may not be as active in the last few months, but IMO their reps should reflect weight for everything they've done to get the board to where it is today. So, IMO a weight for length of time and number of posts here makes absolute sense.
JMO...
I don't have the answer about the difference, but let me add some food for thought....
The early years of this board, IIRC, members rarely, rarely used rep dots. For many florists, FC is their first (and perhaps only) experience in a forum. More than a few struggled just to register and figure out how to post. The rep concept? fuggedaboutit!
The increased use of rep dots of late doesn't take into account some of the long-timers with high posts counts who have contributed immensely to the success of this board.
Some of them keep everything moving along socially - with kind words to unanswered posts, active engagement in the intro threads (which takes a lot of time and helps build our community) and other contributions that don't generally generate approving rep points.
Others may not be as active in the last few months, but IMO their reps should reflect weight for everything they've done to get the board to where it is today. So, IMO a weight for length of time and number of posts here makes absolute sense.
JMO...
Joe Mioux
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Joe -
I don't have the answer about the difference, but let me add some food for thought....
The early years of this board, IIRC, members rarely, rarely used rep dots. For many florists, FC is their first (and perhaps only) experience in a forum. More than a few struggled just to register and figure out how to post. The rep concept? fuggedaboutit!
The increased use of rep dots of late doesn't take into account some of the long-timers with high posts counts who have contributed immensely to the success of this board.
Some of them keep everything moving along socially - with kind words to unanswered posts, active engagement in the intro threads (which takes a lot of time and helps build our community) and other contributions that don't generally generate approving rep points.
Others may not be as active in the last few months, but IMO their reps should reflect weight for everything they've done to get the board to where it is today. So, IMO a weight for length of time and number of posts here makes absolute sense.
JMO...
O,K. using this logic (I know you will see the devils advocate, but other noobies may not) you should have your posts weighted more because of your contributions to the floral industry? yes? no?
Should AIFD, PFCI, FAM, lmnop... be weighted more due to the quality of your's or anyone else's expertise in this industry. Those letter mean something and thus should be valued.
Aren't you saying the samething?
Getting back to FC....
I have been here for 2 1/2 years. Within the past year, we have seen a huge increase in the number of new members.
Why shouldn't their expertise be valued?
Afterall, it doesn't really matter how long a person has been here...what matters is the value of contributing commentary made by an individual poster, irregardless of their tenure. No?
Its the quality of the comment that does. wouldn't you agree?
Cathy, you know I love good quality debate.
all the best
joe
Joe, your questions have been answered in my post on Pg 6.
Don't confuse rep power and rep points.
Joe Mioux
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I'm not I just want to know what the difference is and why their are two scales of measurement.
joe
p.s. Ryan this is your sandbox and you get to make the rules. I am just asking what the rules are and a reason for the rules.
See above. Points are a factor in determining power. Power determines how many points you can give someone else.
Ryan
Joe Mioux
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Hey Joe,
As always I must first admit that I always do enjoy reading your thoughts and views.
You're a source of infinite, no pun intended, inspiration and motivation.
Rep points and reputation seem to be a high level focal point for many lately, maybe more so than in the past, pre ManorMan.
I'd guess that by taking the devils advocate position you are elevating a point that could be a concern to many, for a variety of reasons.
Point well taken here as I think I have become somewhat fine tuned to your thinking and rationalization.
Some may in fact feel slighted, as they have gone above and beyond to contribute in the best way they can, in support of the industry and FC. I guess this is no different that the rest of reality, and it should not be ! Maybe sometimes the dots mean too darn much to some,,,,, who knows ?
That, for lack of better wording sucks, as it's not about the dots, or reputation, as you well know.
You, I, and so many wonderful people here, post our thoughts, for all to see and hopefully benefit from, in one way shape or form, with no hidden agendas.
We all seek nothing in return for our accepted, or unaccepted posts.
We step up to the plate, say what we feel, and hope that something in our words make sense, to someone, or many, though none of us are right all the time.
I think Ryan has done a lot to do the best job that he possibly could with FC and his other ventures and although understanding the nooks and crannies is sometimes hard, I choose to trust his wisdom and judgment, based on my feeling of his overwhelming dedication and wisdom. It's gotta be tough wearing all his hats at times, especially when so many depend on his judgment.
Back to the dots..........
I just posted about this somewhere else recently.
I really don't notice the dots, but when I peruse the area with comments made regarding me or my posts I must admit that it is one heck of a good feeling, to see our peers, offering kind words of respect. I can't put a value on that feeling.
Keeps me going through the tough times.
Maybe one day we will understand Ryan's methods, and maybe we won't, but I think he will always do the best job he can, to make everything fair, for those that care, or don't, about those darn dots.
Tried really hard to make a valid point here but if I lost it somewhere please don't hesitate to point it out to me.
Thanks all.
PS What's up Big Joe ?
As always I must first admit that I always do enjoy reading your thoughts and views.
You're a source of infinite, no pun intended, inspiration and motivation.
Rep points and reputation seem to be a high level focal point for many lately, maybe more so than in the past, pre ManorMan.
I'd guess that by taking the devils advocate position you are elevating a point that could be a concern to many, for a variety of reasons.
Point well taken here as I think I have become somewhat fine tuned to your thinking and rationalization.
Some may in fact feel slighted, as they have gone above and beyond to contribute in the best way they can, in support of the industry and FC. I guess this is no different that the rest of reality, and it should not be ! Maybe sometimes the dots mean too darn much to some,,,,, who knows ?
That, for lack of better wording sucks, as it's not about the dots, or reputation, as you well know.
You, I, and so many wonderful people here, post our thoughts, for all to see and hopefully benefit from, in one way shape or form, with no hidden agendas.
We all seek nothing in return for our accepted, or unaccepted posts.
We step up to the plate, say what we feel, and hope that something in our words make sense, to someone, or many, though none of us are right all the time.
I think Ryan has done a lot to do the best job that he possibly could with FC and his other ventures and although understanding the nooks and crannies is sometimes hard, I choose to trust his wisdom and judgment, based on my feeling of his overwhelming dedication and wisdom. It's gotta be tough wearing all his hats at times, especially when so many depend on his judgment.
Back to the dots..........
I just posted about this somewhere else recently.
I really don't notice the dots, but when I peruse the area with comments made regarding me or my posts I must admit that it is one heck of a good feeling, to see our peers, offering kind words of respect. I can't put a value on that feeling.
Keeps me going through the tough times.
Maybe one day we will understand Ryan's methods, and maybe we won't, but I think he will always do the best job he can, to make everything fair, for those that care, or don't, about those darn dots.
Tried really hard to make a valid point here but if I lost it somewhere please don't hesitate to point it out to me.
Thanks all.
PS What's up Big Joe ?
TOTO
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And now, for something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!
Ah, how I miss the MONTE PYTHON troupe on PBS and their HUMOR based on the disrespect of age old traditions.
Fore MEE, the green dots are meaningless. For some, it might be an ego trip while for others, it might be a goal which they aspire to.
The only thing, which really counts in today's REAL FLORIST WORLD is the GREEN BUCKS in their till, not the green dots on FC.
Over the years (since 1969) we have received numerous floral design awards from the old NY FLORIST CLUB (long since defunct), the old Metropolitan Retail Florist's Association (long since defunct), the NY/NJ Unit of Teleflora, (now the big Apple unit), and the old FTDA NY District 2A/2B, (long since defunct).
Add to that, several Golden Circle Award Plaques from our old FTDA as well as the FTD ONLY! plaques we used to hang on our wall behind our cash registers for all of our customers to see.
A Picture frame for TOTO's FTDA Flowers After Hours Concept still hangs on our cooler, but some days I want to take it down and on other days, I want to leave it stay. It was a GREAT IDEA and I was happy to help our old FTDA implement that program for US WEE BEES.
Various THANK YOU letters still sit in our file cabinet for participating in the Teleflora Bride's Magazine show as a contributing floral designer back in 1972, others for participating in various round table discussions with our old FTDA at Conventions regarding our SPECIAL MESSENGER DELIVERY $ERVICE features, and how to implement them.
Add to that, my Teleflora Column entitled "STRICTLY BUSINESS " back in 1981/1982 when questions were asked by other real florists and I was happy to answer them regarding, what we had learned on those subjects and passed it on to the Newbies in our industry.
No, it's NOT ALL ABOUT MEE!
It's ALL ABOUT US!
All of those plaques, awards, citations, photo ops, letters, and commendations, quite frankly and in 2008, don't mean squat.
They are nothing I can cash in on and nothing which really makes a difference in today's world of REAL FLORISTS.
In fact, they are memories of DAYS GONE BY and when WEE FLORISTS ruled the world with regard to FLORAL PURCHASES made by FLORAL CONSUMERS. US WEE BEES were KING OF THAT HILL! (back then)
Which brings the OLD TOTO DOG back to the GREEN DOTS!
DA DOTS, and in my umble opinion, DON'T MEAN A THING!
The only thing which really counts, for all of us on Ryan's FC board, is that, WE ALL WORK TOGETHER in OUR EFFORTS to MAKE A DIFFERENCE for US!
And THE DIFFERENCE which, US WEE BEES need to work together for, is over the fact that, WE ARE THE COGS and WHEELS which make OUR INDUSTRY work, each and everyday.
To allow others (WSs, DOGs, OGs, Non-Local Phonies and any SKIMMER who is cloaked by those WSs) to use US as their highly discounted subcontracted vendors with their TOO LOW SRPs coupled with their expectation of our FREE DELIVERY $ERVICE, is a crime against our INDUSTRY and an outright insult to our INTELLIGENCE, as well as our Love, Devotion, and Dedication, to our own floral customers along with their same-day-delivery needs.
It is time (in fact, long past due) that, WEE REAL FLORISTS stand up and be counted and TAKE OUR STAND, and tell all of them that, "WE'RE MAD AS H-E-L-L, and we're not going to take it anymore! In fact, we're not going to deliver it anymore, as far as all of you are concerned!"
As BOSS put it so succinctly: If you're advertising in MY LOCAL PHONE BOOK that YOU DELIVER TO MY TOWN then, YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO DELIVER IT YOURSELF, because I'M NOT!
Which equates to REFUSE, REJECT, and take back what has always been RIGHTFULLY YOURS to begin with!
In other words, and in the words of this old TOTO DOG and in our Land of OZ: " BEGONE, YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE! "
And, NO GREEN DOTS required for this ongoing message of HOPE, as it pertains to ALL OF US working together, in our efforts to TAKE BACK what is RIGHTFULLY OURS, to begin with!
As the GOOD WITCH of the North told Dorothy: "YOU HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE POWER!" Just put your Ruby Red Slippers together, click them three times, and say: "There's NO PLACE LIKE HOME!, There's NO PLACE LIKE HOME!, There's NO PLACE LIKE HOME!"
Now, TOTO is standing here in his RUBY RED slippers (again) and my ankles are killing me, and YES JB and MARK, this is a KODAK MOMENT! But, I am a stubborn old SOB, and I will continue my usual mantra, and until such time as, US WEE BEES regain control of our own destiny.
This old DOG simply refuses to allow the WSs to wag this dog's tail!
On an UP NOTE, my son Michael will now sing his version of "MY WAY" for your entertainment, because IN FACT, Old Blue Eyes, like MEE, insisted on doo-ing it all HIS WAY, not theirs!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lxALg6cwFE
Ah, how I miss the MONTE PYTHON troupe on PBS and their HUMOR based on the disrespect of age old traditions.
Fore MEE, the green dots are meaningless. For some, it might be an ego trip while for others, it might be a goal which they aspire to.
The only thing, which really counts in today's REAL FLORIST WORLD is the GREEN BUCKS in their till, not the green dots on FC.
Over the years (since 1969) we have received numerous floral design awards from the old NY FLORIST CLUB (long since defunct), the old Metropolitan Retail Florist's Association (long since defunct), the NY/NJ Unit of Teleflora, (now the big Apple unit), and the old FTDA NY District 2A/2B, (long since defunct).
Add to that, several Golden Circle Award Plaques from our old FTDA as well as the FTD ONLY! plaques we used to hang on our wall behind our cash registers for all of our customers to see.
A Picture frame for TOTO's FTDA Flowers After Hours Concept still hangs on our cooler, but some days I want to take it down and on other days, I want to leave it stay. It was a GREAT IDEA and I was happy to help our old FTDA implement that program for US WEE BEES.
Various THANK YOU letters still sit in our file cabinet for participating in the Teleflora Bride's Magazine show as a contributing floral designer back in 1972, others for participating in various round table discussions with our old FTDA at Conventions regarding our SPECIAL MESSENGER DELIVERY $ERVICE features, and how to implement them.
Add to that, my Teleflora Column entitled "STRICTLY BUSINESS " back in 1981/1982 when questions were asked by other real florists and I was happy to answer them regarding, what we had learned on those subjects and passed it on to the Newbies in our industry.
No, it's NOT ALL ABOUT MEE!
It's ALL ABOUT US!
All of those plaques, awards, citations, photo ops, letters, and commendations, quite frankly and in 2008, don't mean squat.
They are nothing I can cash in on and nothing which really makes a difference in today's world of REAL FLORISTS.
In fact, they are memories of DAYS GONE BY and when WEE FLORISTS ruled the world with regard to FLORAL PURCHASES made by FLORAL CONSUMERS. US WEE BEES were KING OF THAT HILL! (back then)
Which brings the OLD TOTO DOG back to the GREEN DOTS!
DA DOTS, and in my umble opinion, DON'T MEAN A THING!
The only thing which really counts, for all of us on Ryan's FC board, is that, WE ALL WORK TOGETHER in OUR EFFORTS to MAKE A DIFFERENCE for US!
And THE DIFFERENCE which, US WEE BEES need to work together for, is over the fact that, WE ARE THE COGS and WHEELS which make OUR INDUSTRY work, each and everyday.
To allow others (WSs, DOGs, OGs, Non-Local Phonies and any SKIMMER who is cloaked by those WSs) to use US as their highly discounted subcontracted vendors with their TOO LOW SRPs coupled with their expectation of our FREE DELIVERY $ERVICE, is a crime against our INDUSTRY and an outright insult to our INTELLIGENCE, as well as our Love, Devotion, and Dedication, to our own floral customers along with their same-day-delivery needs.
It is time (in fact, long past due) that, WEE REAL FLORISTS stand up and be counted and TAKE OUR STAND, and tell all of them that, "WE'RE MAD AS H-E-L-L, and we're not going to take it anymore! In fact, we're not going to deliver it anymore, as far as all of you are concerned!"
As BOSS put it so succinctly: If you're advertising in MY LOCAL PHONE BOOK that YOU DELIVER TO MY TOWN then, YOU BETTER BE ABLE TO DELIVER IT YOURSELF, because I'M NOT!
Which equates to REFUSE, REJECT, and take back what has always been RIGHTFULLY YOURS to begin with!
In other words, and in the words of this old TOTO DOG and in our Land of OZ: " BEGONE, YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE! "
And, NO GREEN DOTS required for this ongoing message of HOPE, as it pertains to ALL OF US working together, in our efforts to TAKE BACK what is RIGHTFULLY OURS, to begin with!
As the GOOD WITCH of the North told Dorothy: "YOU HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE POWER!" Just put your Ruby Red Slippers together, click them three times, and say: "There's NO PLACE LIKE HOME!, There's NO PLACE LIKE HOME!, There's NO PLACE LIKE HOME!"
Now, TOTO is standing here in his RUBY RED slippers (again) and my ankles are killing me, and YES JB and MARK, this is a KODAK MOMENT! But, I am a stubborn old SOB, and I will continue my usual mantra, and until such time as, US WEE BEES regain control of our own destiny.
This old DOG simply refuses to allow the WSs to wag this dog's tail!
On an UP NOTE, my son Michael will now sing his version of "MY WAY" for your entertainment, because IN FACT, Old Blue Eyes, like MEE, insisted on doo-ing it all HIS WAY, not theirs!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lxALg6cwFE
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Sorry TOTO, you're gettin the dot anyway !
Sempre Fi brother
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Sorry TOTO, you're gettin the dot anyway !
Sempre Fi brother
I frankly pay little attention to the dots. I pay attention to the name of the person posting. Some of you really peak my interest and I always read every post you make, no matter what. There are a few others, that tend to ramble and I usually don't read their posts.
After a few posts by someone, you should be able to decide for yourself if they know what they are talking about. Joe, I have never checked out your dots or reps, but, I always do read your posts. Doesn't that make a huge statement?
Carol Bice
After a few posts by someone, you should be able to decide for yourself if they know what they are talking about. Joe, I have never checked out your dots or reps, but, I always do read your posts. Doesn't that make a huge statement?
Carol Bice
No. No single person here is right all the time about every aspect of running a flower shop. We have different interests, different strengths and offer answers based on our perspectives.
There are plenty of wonderful, helpful posts from 'non-credentialed' members. Not everyone has the interest or the financial resources to go after a professional credential, yet they may have life experiences and design successes far greater than achieving AIFD, etc... (Don't get me wrong, I'm a big believer in the value of AIFD, AAF and/or PFCI membership, but it doesn't make members infallible.)
It is! All that rep measures is contributions to this board, not lifetime achievement in the flower industry.
Joe, should one fabulous comment by Martha Stewart (if she showed up here) outweigh the hundreds or thousands made by long-time members who've make this community what it is?
Honestly, who the h*ll knows what prompts members to give rep points? :dunno: I've received them for seemingly simple, straight-forward remarks, yet only got a few after spending days working (and placing my head directly on the chopping block) on the campaign to the FTC about 1-800-Flowers' 'free delivery'.
Don't think I've ever received one for a single post on the RF Blog. If members don't value them with a green dot, so be it. It hasn't stopped me from posting. :>
Ryan saw the need to tweak the rep scale, as he's done in the past. He's made a TON of improvements to this board, worked very hard to increase communications between members, and helped make the whole FC experience more user friendly. I hope every member here takes the time to green dot the guy for doing the real work here.
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