Well I'm gonna say it...

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Devaluing anyone's input never has good results.

Shannon and Thom and anyone else who feels devalued, please don't "throw the baby out with the bathwater" as it were. As I said above, we don't all have the same feelings and thoughts.

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Posting in a forum like this is like making speech in front of hundreds of people. You would be lucky if only a few people got ticked off.

People dislike other people for all sort of reasons. Like the way one writes or speaks, for example. Some would say this or that person is "arrogant" "condescending" etc, etc, without actually knowing a thing about the person.

There's nothing you should be worried, as it's not your fault and you have ultimately no control over how other people feel about you. Just be yourself and that's it.

I'm sort of surprised that many people take online criticisms very personally. But again, I have very think skin.. um.. scales, so how do I know?
 
If you click the "quick links" then "today's posts" it helps. Also the ignore command is helpful to which is why I am here now.

Twila thanks for your candor. I'm glad I finally saw it. The reason I so appreciate it is that you had the nerve to tell me I'm being a blow hole.
Yes it hurts, I am human too. But I get it. What really hurt was the latter post that some just wish I'd go away. i wish I would too but i would miss the friends I made and my days alone would be dull.

I had no idea that I was hogging the threads. I had no idea that I was being a show boat. Starting to many threads, what ever. I'm not a bad person. I have feelings too. I don't like to hurt anyone. It's just always been in my nature to stand out in the crowd. In my profession I have learned that when in a room of competitors bidding on the same job, if I don't stand out, if I'm not a "show boat" then I just get ignored and lose which is something I loathe.

I was really excited when I first joined FlowerChat because I never found anything like it and I could identify somewhat to the plight. And it was fun making new friends, and I have always thought friends could let their hair down and have some fun, but as I said before your post, I try to apologize for my actions, and I learn not to go there again.

So I choose to quit posting, at least on the threads, unless I can add a comment that can be helpful. But I will post all I want on my profile page because I have a lot of ideas, and I love it when I stumble on a new idea or product or share thoughts with others. So if you still want to see all the goofy crap I come up with you can read it there. I can pm all I want too which will lighten the overcrowded threads.

All I ask in return is that you guys don't do this to the next show boat that inevitably will arise to want to shine, and realize beyond your own reality that some people just need to shine and share, but quenched they slip into deep despair. Because FlowerChat, I believe this might have some emotional addiction.

Thank you
Thom

I must have missed the a-hole's post saying such BS about Thom. Maybe it was deleted or edited. Whatever was said was total crap. Thom, I love your posts. Your post crack me up more than anyone on FC. You are probably the #1 poster I look for first when I scan what to read.

The comments that I enlarged above in your quote are the most WRONG and HURTFUL words that I have seen said on this board in the few short months I have been participating in FC. I really hope, since the post that you have received an apology.

Please reconsider participating once again... I will really miss your posts, your humor and your insight. I especially will miss some great intriguing subjects you always come up with to begin a thread, some industry related and some not. Hell.... this is 25% helpful in our businesses and 75% entertainment. I really hope you keep it coming.

Please everyone... use that preview button and give a second thought that maybe your comments are over the top and hurtful.
 
I know I don't have much cache here on FC, but I think Shannon leaving is just a travesty. Sheesh!!
Me too. Not that it's the only measure of a member's participation here at FC, but Shannon is in the Top 15 when it comes to Reputation rankings. She has contributed a lot of excellent content as voted by the membership at large.

I certainly hope she changes her mind and feel really badly about the hurt feelings .
 
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...come on guys and gals. Do not take this stuff so personal.
My goodness, it is just a forum where we all get together to learn and have fun.:spintongu The best thing to do is be yourself. That is what makes fc fun and unique, just be yourself.
 
Well I'll bite - I can't find anyone who said Thom should "just go away".

Who said that?

Even using Ctl-F the only instance I can see of this is Cathy's remark
I truly relish the design oriented posts and can undestand why the non-designers wish they would go away.

Is this a case of putting words in someone's mouth?

If it was me I'll take responsibility for it, but not if I didn't say it and someone "said it for me" cuz that would be bullsh!t.
 
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just let the whole @@@@ed thread go away JB
 
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JB -

There are a lot of hurt feelings as a result of this thread, including members whose names were not named - people who we both respect very much.

That last comment was a cheap shot. Do you see your name posted in the quote I left? Now who's putting words in whose mouth?

Give it a rest.
 
Sure whatever - should I be sorry I was trying to see if I had some apology to make to Thom?

PS I'm not sorry.

If I wronged someone I like to admit it and take appropriate measures.

Taking the time and trying to figure it out is hardly what I would call a cheap shot. But that remark I quoted above sure sounds like one to me.

carry on.
 
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Let's try a little reading comprehension.

My post, if you read slowly said
I truly relish the design oriented posts and can undestand why the non-designers wish they would go away.
How you construed that to mean any person at all is beyond me. It was about the topic of design.

You can apologize to me.

Carry on.
 
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Sure I'll try reading comprehension 101 if you'll play too.

Well I'll bite - I can't find anyone who said Thom should "just go away".

Who said that?

Even using Ctl-F the only instance I can see of this is Cathy's remark


Is this a case of putting words in someone's mouth?

If it was me I'll take responsibility for it, but not if I didn't say it and someone "said it for me" cuz that would be bullsh!t.



Now again searching the entire 18 pages using Ctl-F I could only find 2 instances of "go away", one of them was that quote.

IF that's what Thom was referring to I didn't say it.

And for further clarification - I don't wish for design oriented posts to go away either, IF you were referring to me.

Sorry you took me wrong.

IF you weren't referring to me, sorry I took you wrong.

But I'm mostly sorry that Thom got his feelings hurt, and I am glad it wasn't by me, as far as I can tell. But as far as I can find - no one said that to Thom.

rock on
 
Gee...I bet everyone here thinks that you don't like each other very much. :duel: I'll let ya'll in on a secret...they are. :squish:In fact Cathy NEVER - EVER calls to talk to just ME!!! :purpleteaIt's always for HIM-HIM-HIM and then they talk for HOURS! :dunno:

I want a special call from Cathy just for ME!!! :grovel::hug:
 
Me too, other than that, it's like a car accident. I can't help but stare...
Or like old milk, you know it's gonna stink, but you smell it just to make sure. :ssmoke
 
I'm starting a betting pool here - 10 bucks of casino cash is the buy-in.

How many more times will somebody tick somebody off before this thread dies a natural death?

10 bucks sez - sometime in the next 5 posts somebody is gonna say somethin to tick somebody else off? lol

Whose in?
 
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I'm starting a betting pool here - 10 bucks of casino cash is the buy-in.

How many more times will somebody tick somebody off before this thread dies a natural death?

10 bucks sez - sometime in the next 5 posts somebody is gonna say somethin to tick somebody else off? lol

Whose in?


Why not bet 12bux!!!! lol
 
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